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More and more of my generation have stopped wearing watches, mostly because of smart phones. There's no need to wear something on your wrist when you're staring at your phone every few minutes. Out of my main group of 10-12 bloke mates, only three of us still wear them, and we all work in a business environment where there's a reasonably high standard of dress. I've got a reasonably nice Colorado one, and I had the leather strap replaced with a gun metal grey band to look a bit more professional. I also have a reasonably nice looking Patek Phillipe knockoff that my parents brought back from Vietnam for me. I'm heading back over to 'Nam in late November, and I was thinking I might drop a little bit of dough on a few reasonable looking watches to wear to the office.

What do you guys wear? To be specific, what do you guys wear to work? I'm especially interested in anyone working in a corporate or financial environment. I'm wondering if investing $200-300 in a nice one is a good investment, and honestly, the people who'll be my bosses in coming years will be much closer to most of your ages than mine so I'd love to hear what you blokes think.
 
why waste money on fakes. nothing shouts out poser more than someone donning a suit and wearing a fake watch.

i wear a rolex submariner (116610), and its been tough as nails. excellent watch for the beach, boardroom, etc. cheap too at $8k, i dont have to worry about a battery again, and every 5 years, i bring it into rolex service centre and get it overhauled ($1k/5yrs or $200/yearly), not to mention i can get a decent price for it should i ever find myself in trouble and need some urgent cash
 
What do you guys wear? To be specific, what do you guys wear to work? I'm especially interested in anyone working in a corporate or financial environment. I'm wondering if investing $200-300 in a nice one is a good investment, and honestly, the people who'll be my bosses in coming years will be much closer to most of your ages than mine so I'd love to hear what you blokes think.

'most of your ages' - [sigh] - you might just be correct!

I wear either a Seiko Quartz dress watch in gold trim with a leather band or a Seiko 5 Military Nylon Strap Automatic Watch SNZG15K1. Nothing too fancy and seriously I'm not sure that it needs to be.

why waste money on fakes. nothing shouts out poser more than someone donning a suit and wearing a fake watch.

i wear a rolex submariner (116610), and its been tough as nails. excellent watch for the beach, boardroom, etc. cheap too at $8k, i dont have to worry about a battery again, and every 5 years, i bring it into rolex service centre and get it overhauled ($1k/5yrs or $200/yearly), not to mention i can get a decent price for it should i ever find myself in trouble and need some urgent cash

Hmmmm, Rolex submariner, nice. I'm not sure I'd call $8k cheap but...

Do I need to start collection watches now too?
 
More and more of my generation have stopped wearing watches, mostly because of smart phones. There's no need to wear something on your wrist when you're staring at your phone every few minutes. Out of my main group of 10-12 bloke mates, only three of us still wear them, and we all work in a business environment where there's a reasonably high standard of dress.
This really surprises me as one has nothing more to do with the other than the time on a normal phone/microwave/vcr/car/wallclock/pc as had traditionally with a mans wristwatch. Its one thing to show the time, its another to be a fashion accessory that ALSO shows the time. You're alluding to watches clearly as the latter hence where you can also see the time isn't important, its about having the right timepiece on your wrist. :)

I also have a reasonably nice looking Patek Phillipe knockoff that my parents brought back from Vietnam for me. I'm heading back over to 'Nam in late November, and I was thinking I might drop a little bit of dough on a few reasonable looking watches to wear to the office.
Sorry but have to 100% agree with Hilux here. If you're trying to impress people who wear and know watches wearing gaudy fakes is a terrible idea. Generally they scream out 'I'm a fake' from 10m away...and you can spot them easily.

If the price is right and you like a few get some...but IMHO only as going out night watches for a bit of bling. Hence if they stop/get nicked or damaged its no big deal.

There's a BIG difference between what many people consider a good looking fake & a fake that looks GOOD! ;-)

I'm wondering if investing $200-300 in a nice one is a good investment, and honestly, the people who'll be my bosses in coming years will be much closer to most of your ages than mine so I'd love to hear what you blokes think.
Now I mean this in the nicest way but $200-300 won't even get you the band for a 'nice' watch!!! Realistically prepare to spend quite abit more....this could nab you a nice 2nd hand watch....or some of the quite respectable Japanese brands.

Both Seiko & Citizen do some very decent looking upper end models that'd be in your price range & from a technical perspective would give you a great watch for many yrs - whilst looking the part.

Lets be frank, if you're trying to impress the watch snob crowd you will NOT unless you wear a big name watch .....and thats not feasible at this point. So you're looking to look 'smart' hence go with a mid-upper level Seiko/CItizen and you'll fit in just fine.

A watch really is the ONLY jewellery/fashion accessory a man can wear without risk of looking a bit pouncy. Hence chosing the right one for you is key.

Quick tips....nothing looks worse than a SUPER busy face with chronometer/dive dial etc - only get this if you NEED it.....personally I believe simple & less cluttered is best and timeless. Also CHUNKY watches look ridiculous on guys with very thin arms, so what looks great on the shelf/model won't on you....so get to suit your build.

Personally I prefer relatively simple designs.....functionality over bling.....brushed metal finish....nothing that screams "ohhh ohhh look at me!"

FWIW I used to have an Omega Seamaster, almost exactly the one in the image. Honestly I got compliments on it ALL THE TIME....was a great watch & long term I recommend aspiring to something like this. As they're good value without getting into BIG money (can buy 2nd hand for under $1000).

Sold it off a few yrs ago and now wear 2 different Citizen Ecodrives.....one work oriented the other casual. ~$120 each deliver from Amazon. Toyota Corolla's of watches but works for me at this stage. :)

i wear a rolex submariner (116610), and its been tough as nails. excellent watch for the beach, boardroom, etc. cheap too at $8k, i dont have to worry about a battery again, and every 5 years, i bring it into rolex service centre and get it overhauled ($1k/5yrs or $200/yearly), not to mention i can get a decent price for it should i ever find myself in trouble and need some urgent cash
Sweet watch & I understand 'cheap' is a relative term.....but for 99% of folks they won't label $8k as cheap. I agree as a big name watch its relatively entry level price BUT thats another ballgame in itself. :)

No offence intended but that servicing cost is obscene! They're absolutely taking the mickey if they charge that and I'd wake up & smell the coffee on that ASAP! To me completely counterintuitive that a premium product could need over 100x the servicing costs spent on it than say a $300 Seiko - which in the same span would perhaps need a battery.

They're taking the piss to the limit with that fee........just like I am sure the guys at the Ferrari dealer's mechanics charge $1000 for an oil change.......is hardly more work than a normal car but they know you can pay it, hence they'll charge it. Worrying about a battery isn't much of a selling point when the service fee is that much. :)

And whilst Rolex's and upper end watches don't depreciate much enabling decent onselling value they don't hold as much value as say going with a $1k Seiko/CItizen & $7k in the bank. ;-)

I know...its not the same...but its a big price to have that brand name on your wrist. Glad it works for you but not good value for $$$ IMHO. :)
 
Oh FWIW this is the Ebay seller I ended up getting my two Ecodrive's from - I thought I'd ordered through Amazon but was through this guy. Check his Ecodrive stuff out (ignore the other stuff...Bulova etc - junk!)

Everything was 100% legit - full retail box with full papers etc - and was a real pleasure to deal with.

I must say he's got some nice stuff on there with REALLY very good prices. Also a brand like Citizen has a pretty poor reputation here in Aust. as we're used to seeing their nasty bottom-end stuff selling at jewellers etc - but if you read up on the company they've actually got a great history of simply wanting to make world class timepieces at prices that the average Joe can afford.....I think the commie in me appreciates that. That said both them and Seiko are a LOT bigger in Japan than they are here......but don't be put off and think poor/low end brand - they've got stuff that on a technical level as just as good as the big boys, just not the other stuff that can go with it.

Anyway - horses for courses/ :) IIRC Ecodrive watches are designed to run for 20yrs+ without any servicing or work on them. No mean feat even for a $2000+ watch let alone often sub-$100!

Oh also FWIW here are the watches I have. This one is my casual watch.......sometimes your BIG watch will look just as good in shorts/t-shirt as with your Hugo Boss suit, but other times it won't. Hence I grabbed this for around $100 delivered. Is a great lil watch and I never have to sweat if I lose it or scratch it - but its built so well neither have happened in a few yrs use. The band is so-so, I was going to get a nice kevlar look one to replace it.

Can't find my 'work' watch but its a titanium ecodrive model.

Here's a few quick picks:
  • Not bad, face a lil busy but some will like this
[*] A black watch band on this and you've got a bad boy watch
[*] Nice watch

Like i said IMHO avoid ones with TOO MUCH happening on their face - they look yuck. This is a perfect example. Less is more.

Hmm the more expensive ones get ugly.....lots of choices in that $100-230 range.

Skywatches are also meant to be quite a good retailer....looks like free shipping and a big range.

Also check out the Seiko 5 Automatic range - is very well regarded as exceptional value for money. :)
 
Hmmmm, Rolex submariner, nice. I'm not sure I'd call $8k cheap but...

Do I need to start collection watches now too?

depends on where you sit on the range of watches. in luxury watches, $8k is "cheap" (using the term loosely). compare that to a seiko or swatch, and its a bloody expensive :p

Sweet watch & I understand 'cheap' is a relative term.....but for 99% of folks they won't label $8k as cheap. I agree as a big name watch its relatively entry level price BUT thats another ballgame in itself. :)

No offence intended but that servicing cost is obscene! They're absolutely taking the mickey if they charge that and I'd wake up & smell the coffee on that ASAP! To me completely counterintuitive that a premium product could need over 100x the servicing costs spent on it than say a $300 Seiko - which in the same span would perhaps need a battery.

They're taking the piss to the limit with that fee........just like I am sure the guys at the Ferrari dealer's mechanics charge $1000 for an oil change.......is hardly more work than a normal car but they know you can pay it, hence they'll charge it. Worrying about a battery isn't much of a selling point when the service fee is that much. :)

And whilst Rolex's and upper end watches don't depreciate much enabling decent onselling value they don't hold as much value as say going with a $1k Seiko/CItizen & $7k in the bank. ;-)

I know...its not the same...but its a big price to have that brand name on your wrist. Glad it works for you but not good value for $$$ IMHO. :)

Sure i understand that $8k watch isnt for the everyday people. Hell, some even call me crazy when i was wearing a two tone datejust (16233) to my retail job (back in my uni days). And i know that servicing is expensive, and yes, they are taking the piss. but its not something you have to do, there has been stories of watches running for 25years before it stopped (mom's watch wasnt even opened since she bought it back in 1980), and my dad's president hasnt even been touched since 1969. Personally, i wear a watch for 2-3 years, onsell it with minimal loss, and not worry about servicing.

if i can afford to, there is one watch i really like. and it is the urwerk. in the following order. UR1001, UR202 or UR110. For the record, the UR1001 is the same price as a ferrari 458. But i will need to be pinching away plenty of pennies for those watches.
 
i wear a rolex submariner (116610), and its been tough as nails. excellent watch for the beach, boardroom, etc. cheap too at $8k

I think it's brilliant that you can afford that mate, it's a beautiful watch. So far out of the realm of possibility for me though. I don't think I could ever justify spending that much on a watch, I'd rather put a pizza oven in my backyard to be honest. I am jealous though, you must get a lot of compliments on it.

'most of your ages' - [sigh] - you might just be correct!

I wear either a Seiko Quartz dress watch in gold trim with a leather band or a Seiko 5 Military Nylon Strap Automatic Watch SNZG15K1. Nothing too fancy and seriously I'm not sure that it needs to be.

I like the Seiko, it looks good for every day wear. Quite similar to my Colorado though, which will go to the local watch repair shop to get fixed up next pay day, I need to get the new band put on and it also needs a new battery and the timers to be fixed as they no longer work. I guess it has sentimental value too, my grandfather bought it for me a some years ago as a gift. A $150 watch is a nice gift for a 14 year old, and now that he's passed away, it's a nice memory.

Nick mate, how much time do you have to sit on this forum? Your posts are always packed with info, they're tremendous.

why waste money on fakes. nothing shouts out poser more than someone donning a suit and wearing a fake watch.

I think you and Nick are right, and it's fair enough. That said...

IMHO only as going out night watches for a bit of bling. Hence if they stop/get nicked or damaged its no big deal.

This is half the point of my buying watches in Vietnam. I like to have a boogie when I'm out on the town, and considering how many times I bump into people or the bar, it'd be silly to wear a good one out. My social scene is quite different to my business environment, so


You're alluding to watches clearly as the latter hence where you can also see the time isn't important, its about having the right timepiece on your wrist. :)

Ask a teenager what the time is, they'll pull out their phone. Ask one of your mates what the time is, he'll probably look at his watch. My generation doesn't seem to see watches as anything more than a means of telling the time, but I agree, the dual purpose of fashion and time is the point for me. I'd like to be someone who looks at his watch, even if for no other reason than I dislike how reliant I've become on my iPhone.

Both Seiko & Citizen do some very decent looking upper end models that'd be in your price range & from a technical perspective would give you a great watch for many yrs - whilst looking the part. So you're looking to look 'smart' hence go with a mid-upper level Seiko/CItizen and you'll fit in just fine. A watch really is the ONLY jewellery/fashion accessory a man can wear without risk of looking a bit pouncy. Hence chosing the right one for you is key.

There are some quite nice looking watches there, and it's more or less what I'm looking for. My key things are appearance, durability, and reliability. I know there's a reasonable difference between what I can afford and what I'd like, but it can't be helped. I'm constrained by my wages, my need to contribute to my savings, and the fact that I have a long list of things to replace in my wardrobe and other things. I'm going through the phase where I'm transitioning my fashion sense from the late teenage years to a more adult oriented style. My friends say I'm becoming a square...I think I'm just getting a bit of class. :cool:

FWIW I used to have an Omega Seamaster, almost exactly the one in the image. Honestly I got compliments on it ALL THE TIME....was a great watch & long term I recommend aspiring to something like this. As they're good value without getting into BIG money (can buy 2nd hand for under $1000).

That's the kind of watch I'd look at in a few years, and I actually do aspire to something in that kind of price range. I'm not in management yet though and I am only 21, so there's no clear need for something nicer than what's been suggested and as I said, the amount of money I have to spend is limited. It depends on how much commission I make really. If I have a few really good weeks, I can spend a bit more perhaps.

I quite like this Citizen CA0330, I think it's quite pleasant looking and will match my shirts, ties, belt and shoes. The main point is to find something that matches my desired style, so I want something that looks nice and professional. I'm not looking for something that will stand out, just something to quietly compliment my style within my budget. I'm happy to hear you're happy with yours too, Nick. Knowing that they're reliable and legit makes me more confident about buying one on eBay. I have my eye on a couple in the Seiko 5 series too, but I'm gunna hunt around for a better price than the ones I've been seeing.

Thanks for the huge amount of great info Nick, that was really helpful. Especially the link to the eBay store. Thanks everyone else too. I'd still be interested in hearing what other people think and are wearing too, because like it was said, watches are nice bling for blokes and I'm curious about everyone else's daily and formal wear.
 
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I quite like this http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221054056153&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en, I think it's quite pleasant looking and will match my shirts, ties, belt and shoes. The main point is to find something that matches my desired style, so I want something that looks nice and professional. I'm not looking for something that will stand out, just something to quietly compliment my style within my budget. I'm happy to hear you're happy with yours too, Nick. Knowing that they're reliable and legit makes me more confident about buying one on eBay. I have my eye on a couple in the Seiko 5 series too, but I'm gunna hunt around for a better price than the ones I've been seeing.

Thanks for the huge amount of great info Nick, that was really helpful. Especially the link to the eBay store. Thanks everyone else too. I'd still be interested in hearing what other people think and are wearing too, because like it was said, watches are nice bling for blokes and I'm curious about everyone else's daily and formal wear.

Glad to have helped, thans for the kind words - sometimes you wonder if people appreciate the many minutes it takes to make a post of that length - so thank you for the kudos. :)

FWIW I think thats a great looking watch and will serve you well for many a year. See how you go but I think you'd be very happy with it and that your rationale is exceptionally sound. Let us know how you go, cheers, Nick :)
 
I think it's brilliant that you can afford that mate, it's a beautiful watch. So far out of the realm of possibility for me though. I don't think I could ever justify spending that much on a watch, I'd rather put a pizza oven in my backyard to be honest. I am jealous though, you must get a lot of compliments on it....

to be honest, not a lot of people know what you are wearing. a watch is just that, a watch, and most people (in australia) dont care. as long as it doesnt have yellow/rose gold, it slips under the radar of most people, unless you manage to meet a watch fanatic.

having said that, i did get alot of stares on my wrist when i was working retail and wearing a two tone datejust. imagine a young punk (18yo) wearing a rolex to work stacking shelves at the local supermarket or myer's trying to sell you a new computer.

i also got stares from my teachers when i wore my stainless steel datejust to school (15 yo). i have my dad to blame because he taught me two things. how to respect time, and how to take care of a good watch. for the record, i come from a family of watch collectors. (grand dad, dad, uncle)
 
Guys what are you doing!

Got me looking at a Seiko 007 again, but should it be the Jubilee - Seiko automatic 200m divers Men watch SKX007J SKX007 SKX007J1

or Oyster bracelet - Japan Seiko automatic 200m divers watch SKX007J Oyster

Wonder what they would look like on a NATO strap and how you would change it over?


See what you have done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jubilee or oyster is up to you. fitting a nato is a no brainer. you can get springbars for those watches for next to nothing, and fit nato straps on them in less than 5 minutes. nato straps look beaut on sport watches, just not dress watches.
 
Guys what are you doing!

Got me looking at a Seiko 007 again, but should it be the Jubilee - Seiko automatic 200m divers Men watch SKX007J SKX007 SKX007J1

or Oyster bracelet - Japan Seiko automatic 200m divers watch SKX007J Oyster

Wonder what they would look like on a NATO strap and how you would change it over?


See what you have done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Mark, you're like the guy at the party who stands by the edge of the pool for hours HOPING someone will push him in! ;-) Grab one pal, at that price thats a dead sexy looking watch.......very classy and I bet its built like an absolute tank!

Thats the nice thing with them having the sub-$300 price range....even if you buy and later decide its not for you you'll be out of pocket very little...but I can't imagine that not getting worn...a lot! Classy looking watch.

Haha now don't you try and use that trick back on me!!! I'm wise to it! ;-)

FWIW I prefer the Oyster strap.....looks more classy and understated.

As Hilux said the NATO straps are very easy to put on, dunno if getting the bracelet off the first tie would be overly hard - I suspect it might be...you can buy a proper tool for it but I just use a lil jewellers flat head screwdriver to depress the springbars on my cheapie. A NATO strap would be a ncie look for the weekend or causal. A kevlar or carbon fibre look strap would look quite good....but I like that SS bracelet and would be loathe to take it out if I couldn't replace it myself very easily. :)
 
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Oh Mark, you're like the guy at the party who stands by the edge of the pool for hours HOPING someone will push him in! ;-) Grab one pal, at that price thats a dead sexy looking watch.......very classy and I bet its built like an absolute tank!

Thats the nice thing with them having the sub-$300 price range....even if you buy and later decide its not for you you'll be out of pocket very little...but I can't imagine that not getting worn...a lot! Classy looking watch.

Haha now don't you try and use that trick back on me!!! I'm wise to it! ;-)

FWIW I prefer the Oyster strap.....looks more classy and understated.

At the party, wearing board shorts without a shirt walking right around the edge - is that the guy you mean?

I think I prefer the Oyster too but not sure whether I actually like bracelets - been a long time since I've worn one.

Of course what I would really like to wear as a dress watch is something like this birth year Vintage Omega Constellation Pie Pan Automatic

[sigh] This could get expensive!

As Hilux said the NATO straps are very easy to put on, dunno if getting the bracelet off the first tie would be overly hard - I suspect it might be...you can buy a proper tool for it but I just use a lil jewellers flat head screwdriver to depress the springbars on my cheapie. A NATO strap would be a ncie look for the weekend or causal. A kevlar or carbon fibre look strap would look quite good....but I like that SS bracelet and would be loathe to take it out if I couldn't replace it myself very easily. :)

jubilee or oyster is up to you. fitting a nato is a no brainer. you can get springbars for those watches for next to nothing, and fit nato straps on them in less than 5 minutes. nato straps look beaut on sport watches, just not dress watches.

It does seem that getting the bracelets on and off is a bit of a challenge from a quick Google. Changing Natos to other straps seems easy though. Hmmm, does this mean that I need to get two? One with teh bracelet and one for Nato straps? or maybe I put the Nato onto my current Seiko 5 - got one of these for myself and one for my son at Christmas - he loves having the same watch as Dad.
 
[sigh] This could get expensive!


It does seem that getting the bracelets on and off is a bit of a challenge from a quick Google. Changing Natos to other straps seems easy though. Hmmm, does this mean that I need to get two? One with teh bracelet and one for Nato straps? or maybe I put the Nato onto my current Seiko 5 - got one of these for myself and one for my son at Christmas - he loves having the same watch as Dad.

you dont know expensive until you start to play with panerai and their straps. straps go for $500+ easily, add the buckle and you are looking at almost $1k (cheaper if you go aftermarket). the watches themselves arent cheap either. but boy do they look excellent. whether you are in the office or lazing around on the beach.

wait... if you have a watch that originally took straps, im not sure if you can fit bracelet on them. because certain rolex offerings come in bracelet, and you can fit leather straps, but for those with rolex with original strap offerings, they cannot install bracelet as they have changed the size/shape slightly so that you cannot fit the bracelet end links, im not 100% if this is the case with seiko.

normally what i would do is, have several springbars in a container ready for those times that you bend/break/fling them across the room. have another case full of straps, and the tools.
 
wait... if you have a watch that originally took straps, im not sure if you can fit bracelet on them. because certain rolex offerings come in bracelet, and you can fit leather straps, but for those with rolex with original strap offerings, they cannot install bracelet as they have changed the size/shape slightly so that you cannot fit the bracelet end links, im not 100% if this is the case with seiko.

I'd be getting the Seiko 007 with the oyster bracelet. It would then be a question of whether I can easily change back and forth with a Nato depending on mood.

normally what i would do is, have several springbars in a container ready for those times that you bend/break/fling them across the room. have another case full of straps, and the tools.

Hmmm, more tools to buy!

So much to buy so little time!
 
to be honest, not a lot of people know what you are wearing.

Among the other reasons I mentioned, this is another reason why I don't want to spend a lot. In terms of cost/benefit, it just doesn't seem to be there. With any luck, I'll be tripling my current income (if my development plan at work goes as planned) in three years, so I'll happily join the luxury watch fraternity then.

for the record, i come from a family of watch collectors. (grand dad, dad, uncle)

Now I understand, your whole family is nuts! :p

Got me looking at a Seiko 007 again, but should it be the Jubilee - Seiko SKX007J SKX007 SKX007J1

I think I've settled on this one too. It's a bit more expensive than the Citizen ones, but I like it quite a bit more. To me, it looks a little more classy and the face is less cluttered which I like. I think I'll pick it up after my next pay day.

I sense another hobby coming on here though...danger, Will Robinson!
 
or maybe I put the Nato onto my current Seiko 5 - got one of these for myself and one for my son at Christmas - he loves having the same watch as Dad.

Now thats a nice basic watch, I've been looking for something like that for a while, my old citizen is reaching the end of its life, the buckles are fragile (I replaced 4 over 17 years) and they are no longer available so I am on my last buckle.

I am looking for something like the above but in eco drive or kinetic.
 
I'd be getting the Seiko 007 with the oyster bracelet. It would then be a question of whether I can easily change back and forth with a Nato depending on mood.

Hmmm, more tools to buy!

So much to buy so little time!

You can get a very nice swiss springbar tool for like >$40. That will last you forever if treated well. Otherwise a (chinese) copy can also do the job.

Among the other reasons I mentioned, this is another reason why I don't want to spend a lot. In terms of cost/benefit, it just doesn't seem to be there. With any luck, I'll be tripling my current income (if my development plan at work goes as planned) in three years, so I'll happily join the luxury watch fraternity then.

Now I understand, your whole family is nuts! :p

Looking forward to seeing some nice luxury watches when all goes well! :)
 
I can feel an AD coming on....

Those 1966 birth year watches look really nice!
 
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