@nav1 got me thinking about my pre shave routine this week and I thought 'why limit myself to Coconut oil?'. @borked , I couldn't wait for the Argan oil to turn up so started without it. So off I went wandering into another branch of the rabbit hole with nothing but a candle i.e. probably should've done some more research before going into the kitchen, but there's always 'trial & error' right?, after all it's only my face??!!.......... nav1, you need to live a little closer so I can use you as guinea pig. Anyway.. first batch produced an emulsion that I have no idea how it will perform but looks like it might have potential. I noticed some use soap as part of their pre shave routine and other various products so I went for a semi soap that is probably more an oily cream. It feels the part on the face but I didn't leave it on long so it won't get a proper run til tomorrow's shave. Ingredients: Coconut oil, Castor oil, Borage oil, Evening primrose oil, Filtered water (RO), Aloe Vera, KOH, Cetyl Alcohol, essential oils. Essential oils: Lavandin, Basil, Rosemary, Black Pepper, Spearmint, Camphor. I'm interested in what others think about what they like in pre shave products. Does oily skin come into the equation? I've assumed not in that most pre shave products are oily to create additional slickness? As example the Alt-Innsbruck product is pre and aftershave. How does that balance out? Is it oily enough for pre shave and is it too oily for aftershave? I've never purchased pre shave products so I'm only speculating. @Mark1966 ,wasn't sure if this is in the appropriate forum?