What's you're favourite basic (every day) all year round aftershave or post-shave.

Traditionally I've been a lotion/balm guy myself with the odd splash for special occasions but I'm finding that @SpeedyPC gets used the most as affordable and does a great job hydrating my face/head. It reminds me of Milkman's After Shave Serum in consistency but without the extra's so both do a fantastic job if you don't enjoy regular witch hazel.

I also enjoy the Stirling Unscented lotion (although a bit thick), Nivea Post Shave Lotion as much cheaper than the Proraso version and just as good, The Stray Whisker After Shave Balm is fantastic and Neutrogena Hydro Boost is great but its pricey for the small amount you get. Sadly the best product I ever tried is no longer available being AP Reserve's After Shave Serum as it did wonders removing blemishes and left my skin baby smooth and refreshed. Nothing to date has left my skin feeling so rejuvenated like Dan's magic serum... :cry:
 
I found some glycerine in the cupboard. It’s in an orange bottle. Doesn’t specify vegetable or plant based. Any ideas?
 
I found some glycerine in the cupboard. It’s in an orange bottle. Doesn’t specify vegetable or plant based. Any ideas?
Would be nice to see a photo of the bottle. otherwise, it could be animal fat glycerine which isn't good for the skin.

If the bottle looks like this from your local supermarket, it's plant-based glycerine AFAIK, BUT, double check, just DON'T get animal-fat glycerine.

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Would be nice to see a photo of the bottle. otherwise, it could be animal fat glycerine which isn't good for the skin.

If the bottle looks like this from your local supermarket, it's plant-based glycerine AFAIK, BUT, double check, just DON'T get animal-fat glycerine.
I don't know where you find this rubbish from, Speedy, but (sorry) sometimes you're full of it. Glycerine=glycerol, the same simple 3-carbon alcohol no matter where it comes from, and both will behave identically on your skin. That said, most commercially available glycerol is derived from plant fats.
 
I don't know where you find this rubbish from, Speedy, but (sorry) sometimes you're full of it. Glycerine=glycerol, the same simple 3-carbon alcohol no matter where it comes from, and both will behave identically on your skin. That said, most commercially available glycerol is derived from plant fats.

Glycerin in skin care: Is it vegan or not?

There are two main types of glycerin: vegetable glycerin and animal glycerin. Vegetable glycerine is made from plants and oils, while animal glycerin comes from animal fats. Both types of glycerin are safe for most people to use on their skin.

Medically reviewed vegetable glycerin is the type most often used in skincare products. It's a clear, odorless liquid that's derived from coconut oil, palm oil, or soybean oil. However, the fact that it is derived from commonly-known comedogenic ingredients, doesn’t mean that glycerin is comedogenic.

It can be derived from vegetable or animal sources, or made synthetically. Most of the suppliers sell vegetable glycerin made from vegetable oils. It is thick, odorless and syrupy and easily dissolves in any liquid, making it a dream to use. As with all ingredients, there is no difference chemically between vegetable or synthetic glycerin, but most of the natural brands like us will only buy natural vegetable glycerin because that is what customers want.

Animal glycerin is made from animal oils. It's a thick, sticky liquid that has a sweet taste. Animal glycerin is less commonly used in skin care products because it can be comedogenic, meaning it can clog pores. However, some people find that animal glycerin helps to soothe and heal dry, cracked skin.

Synthetic glycerin Synthetic glycerin is pharmaceutical glycerin derived from petroleum. With the petroleum word, the impression is not good for skin health. But it is not toxic and there is no problem using it. It is characterised by higher purity and fewer impurities than natural or vegetable or plant-based glycerin. Synthetic glycerin is widely used in the pharmaceutical field because it has higher purity than plant-based products and there is no concern about deterioration. If it has been used for pharmaceutical purposes, then it is safer for the skin too.

So, in conclusion, glycerin can be vegan or not. You just need to check the product’s label to see if it is vegan-friendly or if they are using animal glycerin!

10 Benefits of Glycerin​

As we mentioned above, glycerin is one of those ingredients that performs a multitude of tasks. Although it’s often thought of as a moisturizer, that’s far from the only thing it does!

Here are 10 benefits of glycerin you may--or may not--be aware of:
  1. Glycerin moisturizes - Not only does glycerin moisturize the skin, it pulls moisture up from the lower levels of the skin (the dermis) to the upper levels (the epidermis), essentially allowing the skin to help moisturize itself.
  2. Glycerin creates a calming sensation - Plant-based glycerin is extraordinarily gentle on sensitive skin and can help alleviate temporary skin discomfort.
  3. Glycerin protects - By helping to maintain the skin’s protective layer of moisture, glycerin creates a barrier between the skin and elements that can harm it.
  4. Glycerin smooths the skin - Its hydrating properties help create a smoother looking appearance to the skin.
  5. Glycerin exfoliates - Yes, even though it’s a moisturizer, glycerin does play a role in the exfoliation process, helping to improve skin’s radiance.
  6. Glycerin brightens - Between glycerin’s rejuvenating properties and its ability to moisturize, glycerin plays a key role in keeping skin looking bright and luminous!
  7. Glycerin improves your complexion - Glycerin is non-comedogenic, meaning it won’t clog pores!
  8. Glycerin can be combined with other ingredients - One of the great things about glycerin is that it works well with so many other ingredients to add moisture.
  9. Glycerin has anti-aging benefits - By bringing your skin’s natural moisture to the surface, glycerin helps to reduce the look of fine lines and wrinkles.
  10. Glycerin acts as a natural preservative - When used in skincare products, it can be used as a preservative and solvent in products with herbal and botanical extracts.

What Skin Types Should Use It​

One of the main reasons we love glycerin is that literally every skin type can use glycerin and benefit from it.
Here are a few examples of how glycerin benefits different skin types:

Glycerin for dry skin: Those with dry skin in particular will really benefit from glycerin, since one of its main jobs as a humectant is to moisturize. In fact, not only does glycerin moisturize the skin, it pulls water from the second layer of the skin (dermis) and brings it up to the top (epidermis), giving you that extra boost of hydration.

Glycerin helps moisturize aging skin by not only providing your skin with moisture, but by pulling it from its second layer. This will provide a fresh and revitalized appearance by diminishing and reducing the appearance of wrinkles and fine lines.

Glycerin for sensitive skin: Glycerin’s gentle, hydrating properties have a calming effect on sensitive skin, helping to beautify it by providing rejuvenating moisture. Remember that the source of glycerin we use is plant-based, so it’s less likely to cause irritation.

Glycerin for super-dry, cracked skin: If you have really dry skin, you probably spend a good part of the colder months trying to deal with cracked skin, which is uncomfortable and can even bleed if not treated. Glycerin not only provides protective moisture, but it can prevent your skin from such a state.

Glycerin for oily skin: Often, those with oily skin will skip using moisturizer, worrying that adding moisture will result in even oilier skin. However, skipping moisturizer causes your skin to overproduce oil. The trick is finding an oil-balancing face cream or lotion that will benefit your skin type. Look for a moisturizer containing glycerin. Glycerin is non-comedogenic, so it’s less likely to clog pores.

Glycerin for combination skin: One of glycerin’s jobs is not only to hydrate the skin, but uphold the skin’s protective moisture barrier. This is why it’s so effective on combination skin.

Glycerin for aging skin: As we get older, our skin becomes substantially dryer and more apt to develop fine lines and wrinkles. This is especially true of the skin around the eyes, which is why we included glycerin in our Eyes Eyes Baby eye cream. For this reason, it is important to make sure you increase skin hydration over time.


How To Use Glycerin for Your Skin​

Glycerin is one of those ingredients that performs an astounding multitude of tasks—it just depends what you want it to do for your particular skin.

The main thing to remember when using glycerin in skincare is that unless you’re using it in a product like moisturizer (in which it is already mixed), it’s important to dilute pure glycerin with another ingredient, such as rosewater or vitamin E. When we say glycerin pulls moisture from your skin, we really mean it; and if you use it on its own, you risk pulling too much moisture out and irritating your skin. As long as you combine glycerin with other compatible ingredients, you’ll reap the benefits of this multitasker.

1. Use glycerin as a facial moisturizer – If glycerin has a reputation for one thing in particular, it’s as a moisturizer. When you look for a moisturizer, keep an eye out for glycerin in the ingredients list. We have included glycerin in both all of our facial moisturizers: Youth Fairy Retinol Moisturizer, Crème de la Cream Brightening Moisturizer and H2 Oh Yeah Hydrating Moisturizer.

2. Use glycerin as a body moisturizer – What’s good for the goose is good for the gander! Glycerin-infused body moisturizers are great for dry, thirsty skin.

3. Use glycerin as a cleanser – Chances are you’ve seen glycerin soaps—they’re usually almost transparent and feel creamy to the touch. Oil-free and non-comedogenic, glycerin makes a great cleanser for anyone with a tendency towards clogged pores or sensitive skin. That’s why we’ve included it in our So Clean! facial cleanser.

4. Use glycerin as a toner – Rosewater and glycerin are like the Venus and Serena of skincare ingredient combinations. Together, they restore hydration into the skin like nobody’s business, so we have included glycerin in our Rose and Shine rosewater toner.

5. Use glycerin as a hair conditioner – Glycerin’s moisturizing properties not only work on skin—they work on hair as well! Use it as a conditioner on dry hair; but be sure to dilute it with something else, like your regular conditioner. Also, if you have tinted hair, ask your hairstylist for advice about whether it’s safe for use on your chemically treated hair.

6. Use glycerin as a lip gloss/moisturizer – A little glycerin over the lips makes a great lip gloss that’s not only shiny, but gives your lips a little shot of moisture. This is especially beneficial, as the lip area is prone to dryness, wrinkles, and fine lines. We’ve included glycerin in our One Lip Wonder lip treatment to help hydrate and smooth dry lips.

7. Use glycerin to make old make-up usable again – Have a dried-out lipstick or foundation that’s seen better days? Add a little tiny drop of glycerin to help bring it back to life.

As you can see, glycerin is one of the hardest working products in skin care; luckily, you don’t have to bang down any doors to get it! The next time you’re purchasing cosmetics, keep an eye out for glycerin in the ingredients list.

Ready to add glycerin to your skincare routine? Every product in our 5-step Deluxe Set boasts glycerin as an active ingredient.
 
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Glycerin in skin care: Is it vegan or not?

There are two main types of glycerin: vegetable glycerin and animal glycerin. Vegetable glycerine is made from plants and oils, while animal glycerin comes from animal fats. Both types of glycerin are safe for most people to use on their skin.

Medically reviewed vegetable glycerin is the type most often used in skincare products. It's a clear, odorless liquid that's derived from coconut oil, palm oil, or soybean oil. However, the fact that it is derived from commonly-known comedogenic ingredients, doesn’t mean that glycerin is comedogenic.

It can be derived from vegetable or animal sources, or made synthetically. Most of the suppliers sell vegetable glycerin made from vegetable oils. It is thick, odorless and syrupy and easily dissolves in any liquid, making it a dream to use. As with all ingredients, there is no difference chemically between vegetable or synthetic glycerin, but most of the natural brands like us will only buy natural vegetable glycerin because that is what customers want.

Animal glycerin is made from animal oils. It's a thick, sticky liquid that has a sweet taste. Animal glycerin is less commonly used in skin care products because it can be comedogenic, meaning it can clog pores. However, some people find that animal glycerin helps to soothe and heal dry, cracked skin.

So, in conclusion, glycerin can be vegan or not. You just need to check the product’s label to see if it is vegan-friendly or if they are using animal glycerin!


Your article doesn't say anything very different from what I did.

Glycerol from any source is thick, syrupy and sweet-tasting. (It's sometimes used as a sweetener.) Use too much of it on your skin, and there's a good chance it'll give you zits. (That's all "comedogenic" means.) It binds water to itself.

Why do you insist in your glycerol being vegan when you so frequently say you prefer tallow soaps? (In case you hadn't realised, tallow comes from animals.) That doesn't make sense. The tallow in your soap pretty much survives as an animal fat, but if you use tallow to make glycerol, all you'll get is C3H8O3.

I'm all in favour of using plant-based ingredients, but there's nothing mystical about them.
 
Your article doesn't say anything very different from what I did.

Glycerol from any source is thick, syrupy and sweet-tasting. (It's sometimes used as a sweetener.) Use too much of it on your skin, and there's a good chance it'll give you zits. (That's all "comedogenic" means.) It binds water to itself.

Why do you insist in your glycerol being vegan when you so frequently say you prefer tallow soaps? (In case you hadn't realised, tallow comes from animals.) That doesn't make sense. The tallow in your soap pretty much survives as an animal fat, but if you use tallow to make glycerol, all you'll get is C3H8O3.

I'm all in favour of using plant-based ingredients, but there's nothing mystical about them.
I didn't get a chance to highlight in bold as shown above after you quote

1 . Vegetable glycerin is thick and NOT sticky, is also odorless, and easily dissolves in any liquid.
2. Animal glycerin is thick and sticky and does not easily dissolves in any liquid if you don't add enough water, it can also clog pores because is sticky.
3. Witch Hazel is also sticky as well. That's why T.N. Dickinson Witch Hazel Astringent contains 14% alcohol to thin it down with double distilled for purity.
 
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I didn't get a chance to highlight in bold as shown above after you quote

1 . Vegetable glycerin is thick and NOT sticky, is also odorless, and easily dissolves in any liquid.
2. Animal glycerin is thick and sticky and does not easily dissolves in any liquid if you don't add enough water, it can also clog pores because is sticky.
3. Witch Hazel is also sticky as well. That's why T.N. Dickinson Witch Hazel Astringent contains 14% alcohol to thin it down with double distilled for purity.

You're quite wrong on all three counts.
1 & 2: glycerol, whether derived from animal or plant fats is identical. It mixes with (but doesn't actually dissolve in) water. It also does not dissolve in typical organic solvents. The "stickiness" you refer to is the property of binding water. Any kind of glycerol does this, big-time.
3: Witch hazel is one of many forms of alcohol. By definition, an extract of witch hazel will be a minimum of 14%v/v alcohol if you look at the chemistry. Thayer's has aloe vera, which DOES make it a bit "sticky" as you say, but with other benefits.

Chemistry frees your soul and enriches your life.
 
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You're quite wrong on all three counts.
1 & 2: glycerol, whether derived from animal or plant fats is identical. It mixes with (but doesn't actually dissolve in) water. It also does not dissolve in typical organic solvents. The "stickiness" you refer to is the property of binding water. Any kind of glycerol does this, big-time.
3: Witch hazel is one of many forms of alcohol. By definition, an extract of witch hazel will be a minimum of 14%v/v alcohol if you look at the chemistry. Thayer's has aloe vera, which DOES make it a bit "sticky" as you say, but with other benefits.

Chemistry frees your soul and enriches your life.
Sounds like "facts" based on ideology, not science...
 
After trying many of these options, I've settled on a re-application of the shave soap I used during the shave. Rinse out the razor and brush, put things away and then rinse off the shave soap. If it's a decent soap, it leaves me without any of the sting, oiliness or irritation of the other options. I have a particularly challenging use case though - generally speaking, after my shave, I jump on my bike and ride around 15km to work, often in very hot conditions. So I sweat profusely. My shave soap solution is the only one that leaves me without a rash by the time I get to work...
 
I’m calling BS, if it’s a technique issue then the razor is irrelevant.
If I may be allowed, my humble opinion is as follows.
I have indulged in traditional wet shaving for many years, I am predominantly a hardware geek, favouring straight razors. For me the use of a straight razor is not just about the shave but the journey I have travelled and the knowledge (self taught in many facets) I have gained. The trails I have followed, storage, maintenance, stones, strops etc……. yada yada yada. To buy a previously unloved blade and restore it to a shave ready prospect, to me, is most gratifying. I do it for my own self indulgence and I make no apology for that.
With all the above said I also have a healthy collection of DE & SE safety razors both vintage and contemporary. I am greatly appreciative that this forum has reconnected me with this somewhat neglected part of my vault and I have to say that revisiting these instruments has given me a returned appreciation to such razors and the shave they deliver……. A bit of a ramble I know but just my opinion.
 
If I may be allowed, my humble opinion is as follows.
I have indulged in traditional wet shaving for many years, I am predominantly a hardware geek, favouring straight razors. For me the use of a straight razor is not just about the shave but the journey I have travelled and the knowledge (self taught in many facets) I have gained. The trails I have followed, storage, maintenance, stones, strops etc……. yada yada yada. To buy a previously unloved blade and restore it to a shave ready prospect, to me, is most gratifying. I do it for my own self indulgence and I make no apology for that.
With all the above said I also have a healthy collection of DE & SE safety razors both vintage and contemporary. I am greatly appreciative that this forum has reconnected me with this somewhat neglected part of my vault and I have to say that revisiting these instruments has given me a returned appreciation to such razors and the shave they deliver……. A bit of a ramble I know but just my opinion.
No disagreement that straights are enjoyable, I have a few I regularly use myself but the razor is just the tool, the person holding it is what makes the difference.
 
I’m calling BS, if it’s a technique issue then the razor is irrelevant.
I agree that the razor can be irrelevant. It was the technique that I was referring you to. SR shaving is a great way to get you really working on and improving your technique.

I am too scared to shave with a "safety" razor, although I have heard from many that once they develop a good SR shaving technique, shaving with any razor is greatly improved.
 
although I have heard from many that once they develop a good SR shaving technique, shaving with any razor is greatly improved.
+1

It's like driving a manual, if you can drive a manual car, you can drive anything.
 
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