Face cleaner?

tim33z

tim33z

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Hi guys,

Every now and then I get some pimples on my chin or neck and normally rub some isopropyl Alcohol on them a few times a day to clear them up.

I’ve never used anything like clearasil before so just wondering what products any of you guys recommend to use daily to reduce breaking out.

Thanks!
 
Just remember that when you use drying agents (like isopropyl alcohol) your skin will try to compensate by generating more oil/sebum. You get locked in a neverending spiral.

The post is labelled "face cleaner", so I'll address that.

At night, I use "Urth" face cleaner. It's hideously expensive at $60. But it's easily the best non oil based face cleaner I've ever used.
And you use so little, it ends up being very economical. I've used the same bottle for at least 18 months now and I'll likely renew.
I bought mine from Mensbiz (https://www.mensbiz.com.au/urth-face-wash-with-white-tea-ginseng.html)

Typically follow that with a little Thayer's unscented. I haven't tried adding any teatree oil bit it sounds ok provided you don't overdo it. (that stuff is super strong)

And follow up with a good moistuiser. This step is important because, as stated earlier, you don't want your skin drying out and night-time is your best bang-for-buck.


Granted, everything I've suggested is for long-term results. But, it's still worth sticking to even if you get the occasional breakout.
 
lerenau said:
Just remember that when you use drying agents (like isopropyl alcohol) your skin will try to compensate by generating more oil/sebum. You get locked in a neverending spiral.

The post is labelled "face cleaner", so I'll address that.

At night, I use "Urth" face cleaner. It's hideously expensive at $60. But it's easily the best non oil based face cleaner I've ever used.
And you use so little, it ends up being very economical. I've used the same bottle for at least 18 months now and I'll likely renew.
I bought mine from Mensbiz (https://www.mensbiz.com.au/urth-face-wash-with-white-tea-ginseng.html)

Typically follow that with a little Thayer's unscented. I haven't tried adding any teatree oil bit it sounds ok provided you don't overdo it. (that stuff is super strong)

And follow up with a good moistuiser. This step is important because, as stated earlier, you don't want your skin drying out and night-time is your best bang-for-buck.


Granted, everything I've suggested is for long-term results. But, it's still worth sticking to even if you get the occasional breakout.
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What type of moisturiser @lerenau?
 
Mark1966 said:
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LukehGee said:
What type of moisturiser @lerenau?
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For about 12 months I've been using "Baxter of California - Oil free moisturiser". Again, very expensive at $48.
I don't regret buying it - the cost evens out over time. The performance was very good but missed *something*. So, I intend on trying something else next time.

I suspect I have 6-8 weeks of usage left in the tube. I'll probably try the "Anthony - Oil free facial lotion" next.

Note: I am focusing on night time moisturisers here. So I typically avoid anything with SPF.
SPF if great if you see a lot of sun but only clogs when used at night.
 
lerenau said:
Just remember that when you use drying agents (like isopropyl alcohol) your skin will try to compensate by generating more oil/sebum. You get locked in a neverending spiral.

The post is labelled "face cleaner", so I'll address that.

At night, I use "Urth" face cleaner. It's hideously expensive at $60. But it's easily the best non oil based face cleaner I've ever used.
And you use so little, it ends up being very economical. I've used the same bottle for at least 18 months now and I'll likely renew.
I bought mine from Mensbiz (https://www.mensbiz.com.au/urth-face-wash-with-white-tea-ginseng.html)

Typically follow that with a little Thayer's unscented. I haven't tried adding any teatree oil bit it sounds ok provided you don't overdo it. (that stuff is super strong)

And follow up with a good moistuiser. This step is important because, as stated earlier, you don't want your skin drying out and night-time is your best bang-for-buck.


Granted, everything I've suggested is for long-term results. But, it's still worth sticking to even if you get the occasional breakout.
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Thanks for your detailed response mate!
I’m not someone who has really oily skin (I don’t think) but as I say, just get 1 or 2 zits usually on my chin or right under the nose, from time to time. I guess I really have no regular nightly routine so wondered what people here are using.

I imagine there are countless items available and many are probably prone to doing more harm than good, but if certain products are getting mentioned here with good results, I’d probably give it a go.

Also, does anyone think Alum can cause acne if used daily?
 
Thanks for that info @lerenau I might give that face wash a try, and that second lotion you linked.

I was eyeing this one before your post. https://www.beardandblade.com.au/co...man-co-smooth-operator-face-moisturiser-100ml

@tim33z im pretty much prone to the same pimples mate. Chin and the occasional neck. Between the eyes sometimes to. I use to think I didn't have oily skin (does not seem it) but I'm beginning to think I do and perhaps it's the aftershave Balm + the splashes with witch hazel double up that's causing the occasional one on the chin. I have been cutting the Balm + Splash and only using one.

I can't help bloody popping them as well, and now with age, they are starting to turn to scars:banghead:
 
tim33z said:
Also, does anyone think Alum can cause acne if used daily?
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I'm not sure about this one. I don't shave daily.
I DO use alum after every shave. But, 95% of the time I rinse it off once it has dried.
I should probably try not using it for a while to see what happens.
 
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@tim33z and @LukehGee, seems the three of us all have trouble chin-areas. It's where I break-out too.
I find I am worst the day after an overly-enthusiastic shave. ie: Too many passes or too much pressure.
It's been a hard lesson for me, but you don't have to be 100% baby-butt smooth.

@SpeedyPC, I have AfterBalm and often use it. But the difference really shows when held next to the higher-end stuff.
There's no comparison. But, that's as it should be given the huge price-gap. :)
AfterBalm is very good at what it does at the price that it's at.

Also worth noting, since we're going into detail:
Todras had mentioned (offhand) a while ago that people should reconsider using WitchHazel when using APR splashes because they already contain WitchHazel and the combined result could be overly drying.
Since then, I have taken this advise and noticed a significant improvement. Seems he was right. My skin just seems a big less stressed since I stopped double-dosing.
This applies to using AfterBalm too; it has witchhazel.

Anyway, I hope this helps someone. It's just my recent experience and we're all different.

Cheers Guys.
 
LukehGee said:
Thanks for that info @lerenau I might give that face wash a try, and that second lotion you linked.

I was eyeing this one before your post. https://www.beardandblade.com.au/co...man-co-smooth-operator-face-moisturiser-100ml

@tim33z im pretty much prone to the same pimples mate. Chin and the occasional neck. Between the eyes sometimes to. I use to think I didn't have oily skin (does not seem it) but I'm beginning to think I do and perhaps it's the aftershave Balm + the splashes with witch hazel double up that's causing the occasional one on the chin. I have been cutting the Balm + Splash and only using one.

I can't help bloody popping them as well, and now with age, they are starting to turn to scars:banghead:
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I agree they often look like they’re crying to be popped, and id rather that than them being sluiced off!
lerenau said:
I'm not sure about this one. I don't shave daily.
I DO use alum after every shave. But, 95% of the time I rinse it off once it has dried.
I should probably try not using it for a while to see what happens.
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I try to rinse it off before drying or I feel like it stings for hours.
lerenau said:
seems the three of us all have trouble chin-areas. It's where I break-out too.
I find I am worst the day after an overly-enthusiastic shave. ie: Too many passes or too much pressure.
It's been a hard lesson for me, but you don't have to be 100% baby-butt smooth.
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This I think this is more important than I realise. Today I went with 3 passes wtg on my neck, felt my neck when rinsing and said, “fuck it, I’ll do ATG anyway”. There was a considerable amount of whiskers in the lather on the razor but my neck still felt a little scratchy. Didn’t do any more and felt pretty comfortable after. I do like a BBS but know deep down that they are much rarer in reality.
lerenau said:
Also worth noting, since we're going into detail:
Todras had mentioned (offhand) a while ago that people should reconsider using WitchHazel when using APR splashes because they already contain WitchHazel and the combined result could be overly drying.
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Yes I recall this topic and have never doubled up with extra WH. I have a small amount of unscented thayers which I probably won’t replace either. If anything, might get the dickensons and add some tea tree oil for a night time splash before bed.
Monsta_AU said:
just bought the massive 1L pump bottle of Cetaphil oily cleanser.
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Will also look into this. It’s s face wash you use nightly?


Thanks all for the responses thus far! Much appreciated but keep the responses coming if you’re yet to give your 2 cents, or say so if you don’t give 2 fucks!
 
lerenau said:
I find I am worst the day after an overly-enthusiastic shave. ie: Too many passes or too much pressure.
It's been a hard lesson for me, but you don't have to be 100% baby-butt smooth.
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And therein lies the problem for most of us.

https://thebestorganicskincare.com/a-list-of-non-comedogenic-facial-oils/

While this article extols the virtues of Oleic acid some animal fats as well as some vegetable butters have a relatively high component of this in shaving soaps and some people find tallow soaps detrimental to skin conditions. Tallow, Shea Butter and Kokum butter all are relatively high in Oleic acid.

https://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/319593-the-bad-list-comedogenic-ingredients-and-products/

This link may be helpful to understand that "oils ain't oils" when it comes to the skin. Also your skin can react to the types of fatty acids in your shaving soap. A blanket answer will not fit every situation though. Essential oils can in some cases cause irritation for one person and nothing for someone else.

I would say most breakouts are actually ingrown whiskers. Most razors with a safety bar allow you to cut the whisker close to or even below the skin. Some people never get this issue others - often.

There is a lot to be said for a single pass with minor touch ups.
 
I'm an old fart and luckily I might get a pimple once a year oh the joys of getting old, no where did I out my glasses.........
 
58RW said:
I'm an old fart and luckily I might get a pimple once a year oh the joys of getting old, no where did I out my glasses.........
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NOW where did I PUT my glasses .....

Gee whiz, early onset in progress ;)
 
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