The Fat becomes vegan

Ebonysw45 said:
Um probably not. They don’t make the soap it’s made under contract somewhere. The ingredients list would look more like the new Lea reformulation or better yet Haslinger, if performance was important. Also palm would not feature given the EU stance on continued palm products beyond 2030.
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Yeah, the new MWF ingredients don't give me much confidence.
It may lather up OK but as we all know, shaving soaps are much more than just lather.

Lea classic veggie lathers up just fine and does a good job, but it's only half the soap of the previous Lea classic tallow!!
 
nav1 said:
Yeah, the new MWF ingredients don't give me much confidence.
It may lather up OK but as we all know, shaving soaps are much more than just lather.

Lea classic veggie lathers up just fine and does a good job, but it's only half the soap of the previous Lea classic tallow!!
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True but for the price about $5 a stick still not bad.
 
Ebonysw45 said:
True but for the price about $5 a stick still not bad.
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I'm referring to the Lea classic puck.

The stick was always average for me although the tallow with lanolin/glycerine was pretty good.

The Lea classic tallow puck was phenomenal!
 
When I get the chance I’ll give the veggie formula a run.
 
Don't know whether this has been said already but for those still desperate to add some Tallow MWF backup pucks to their collection you could order some Kent pucks (MWF in disguise) direct from KentBrushes in UK.
 
tullfan said:
I got the new formula and pif'd it after 1 use,enough said
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Really?
I regularly try soaps a few times to see if they run better with extra water, a heavier brush load etc.
But hey, can still get an arko bowl for $7.90 on Amazon, everything’s just playing for second place after that deal.
 
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I still think this shemozzle over tallow vs veg is overblown. I agree there are instances where there are big differences in the quality of the reformulation don't play well with user experience, but some people manage to make a fuckup of the product even with the use of tallow. Witness the debacle over the new post-Valobra C&S soaps.

There's no substitute for putting thought into the formulation. I think it makes little difference where the original fats come from, be it bear, sasquatch or thylacine tallow, or common/garden vegetable oils. By the time you've boiled either with NaOH or KOH, you're left with pretty much the same kind of residues.

With the possible exception that you may perhaps end up with a cleaner scent profile with veg fats. Maybe. :unsure:
 
Gargravarr said:
I still think this shemozzle over tallow vs veg is overblown. I agree there are instances where there are big differences in the quality of the reformulation don't play well with user experience, but some people manage to make a fuckup of the product even with the use of tallow. Witness the debacle over the new post-Valobra C&S soaps.

There's no substitute for putting thought into the formulation. I think it makes little difference where the original fats come from, be it bear, sasquatch or thylacine tallow, or common/garden vegetable oils. By the time you've boiled either with NaOH or KOH, you're left with pretty much the same kind of residues.

With the possible exception that you may perhaps end up with a cleaner scent profile with veg fats. Maybe. :unsure:
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@Gargravarr - that C&S thread was a very interesting read.
 
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Gargravarr said:
Yeah, it was enough that when 5 pucks of O&C arrived from MensBiz with the new formulation on the label (MB hadn't updated their sales page at that point) I sent them back unused for credit on another bottle of the EdC. I don't mind having a lifetime's supply of that. :smuggrin:
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I feel sad that I didn't buy more but also feel a sense of relief that I don't have that hanging over my head in my fantasy cart too. It's out of my hands now. I truly feel this was a bad idea on MWF's behalf. Who knows if they will change back in a year or two but in the meantime there are plenty of other good soaps to stuff for me to add to the fantasy cart. hahaha.

Thanks for the heads up though. Surprised that MensBiz didn't (and still hasn't) update their website but also not surprised. Also $29.95 for the tallow refill is also wildly overpriced too.
 
Rusty Bridges said:
I feel sad that I didn't buy more but also feel a sense of relief that I don't have that hanging over my head in my fantasy cart too. It's out of my hands now. I truly feel this was a bad idea on MWF's behalf. Who knows if they will change back in a year or two but in the meantime there are plenty of other good soaps to stuff for me to add to the fantasy cart. hahaha.

Thanks for the heads up though. Surprised that MensBiz didn't (and still hasn't) update their website but also not surprised. Also $29.95 for the tallow refill is also wildly overpriced too.
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Mitchell's Wool Fat with ceramic bowl has gone up nearly $84.95 now :eek:
 
Rusty Bridges said:
Insanity and ridiculous!
I don't think the prices can be justified.
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Yes it can, because, some Mitchell's Wool Fat with ceramic bowl has the old tallow formula

The price will drop until they have the new formula.
 
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