Missing the boys?

Ferret619

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Recently when meeting up with guys through work, my fraternity or just old buddies, several have lamented the lack of a chance they have to catch up and hang out in a purely social relaxed atmosphere with other young guys, Just grab a drink and meet some new blokes and have a chat. Maybe make some new friends.

Just wondering how many of you guys feel the same way, I’m quite curious if it’s a product of the times where social media has replaced a lot of meeting up at your local hang out and is weighing on guys.

What do you guys think?
 
For me, it’s being an active dad. It limits the opportunities I used to have to go socialise. Wouldn’t have it any other way thou
 
For me, it’s being an active dad. It limits the opportunities I used to have to go socialise. Wouldn’t have it any other way thou
I hope to have the same opertunity to be too busy soon enough :)
I’m considering being a connector and just getting everyone who has expressed this to be in the one room at some point at the local club and just seeing what happens, make a bit of a socal club in a no pressure one evening a month kinda thing.
I think it would do many of the guys some good.
 
I agree with @Rami.
When you're a father, you can't spend too much time with your child. And this gets even harder when you work for a living. Your social life is bound to suffer significantly.

The occasional meetup, and speaking to other grown-ups, is underrated and probably good for a dad's mental health. :)
 
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Remember to put yourself first and do something with the fella's every now and again guys.
Statistics suggest we need to more often!

A possible option would be volunteering together within the community or starting up a Mens Shed.
 
I love the idea of the mentioned charities and I feel all men should be involved in some way, without breaching the Terms of Use here I can say my fraternity does a lot of great charitable work but I think another aspect sometimes missing is just having that sit down and have a chat with out it being focused on anything in particular but if you miss one someone will call and see how it’s going.
I have a friend who tried to kill himself last year and thankfully he is still with us, I want to help so badly but it isn’t something that can always be rectified by my well meaning intentions..
Not that The idea of a regular gathering would help at all but it’s an opertunity to talk and I think it might be worthwhile
 
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Agree 100% - women are much better at / have more opportunities for social interactions than us guys. That's one of the reasons the monthly shaving meet ups are such a great idea - not just to chat about wet shaving but to relax, meet new mates and just have a chance to do something for ourselves. Life is very busy these days, and all to easy to ignore our own health and well-being because we are busy with work and family. I have been making an effort to meet up with mates more this year, even for a quick coffee - its amazing how they all say the same thing - "we should do this more often" (y)
 
Agree 100% - women are much better at / have more opportunities for social interactions than us guys. That's one of the reasons the monthly shaving meet ups are such a great idea - not just to chat about wet shaving but to relax, meet new mates and just have a chance to do something for ourselves. Life is very busy these days, and all to easy to ignore our own health and well-being because we are busy with work and family. I have been making an effort to meet up with mates more this year, even for a quick coffee - its amazing how they all say the same thing - "we should do this more often" (y)
Initially I had thought it a good way to meet good guys and be a gateway to my fraternity as that is a problem in my opinion however the more I consider it I think it’s bigger than that and it won’t appeal to all guys but the few it does it might be a really good thing.
 
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Remember to put yourself first and do something with the fella's every now and again guys.
Statistics suggest we need to more often!

A possible option would be volunteering together within the community or starting up a Mens Shed.

The only issue I see and they don't include or ever talk about is there personnel problem is nearly 93% of men and women who has Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) serving in the military in war (for example Vietnam War), can cause a lot more damage which is far greater in there own family from mental, physical and verbal abuse and I'm one of them too since my father who has PTSD for more than 50 years this is why I'm going through Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service (VVCS).

I have 35 plus years of PTSD dealing with my father and I'm going through VVCS which is not very easy to talk about it which is too painful and I am a shame for not helping myself, also while my father having cancer treatment for Prostate and while my parents are getting divorced because my mother have had enough of nearly 50 years of mental, physical and verbal abuse and I do fully understand the real reason is why. My father refused to get help for nearly 50 years of silent since Vietnam War for not going through Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service (VVCS), this has cause so much damage within my own family which cannot be fixed because the bottle is dead full. Any way is a very very long story.

I strongly beg of you.... If you know someone who served in the military who has PTSD and there veterans families is never too late to get help from Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service (VVCS), for those who have suffer too much mental, physical and verbal abuse.
 
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Mental health is an issue for men from all walks of life, the strong men who have fought for our way of life to our children, about a decade ago I attended the funeral of a friends son, we trained martial arts togeather, we worked in his dads shop togeather, he was 13 years old when he passed.
Guys, we need to look out for each other; It’s really important, have those hard conversations with your mates, hold them to a high standard.
Be better.
 
@SpeedyPC a like for your post seems a bit inappropriate. Just know that you and your family are in my thoughts. Cheers.
@Rami I've been advise with my counsellor is to stop hiding myself and be totally honest, and to share if other people may have the same issue in mental health is never too late to get help.
 
The only issue I see and they don't include or ever talk about is there personnel problem is nearly 93% of men and women who has Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) serving in the military in war (for example Vietnam War), can cause a lot more damage which is far greater in there own family from mental, physical and verbal abuse and I'm one of them too since my father who has PTSD for more than 50 years this is why I'm going through Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service (VVCS).

I have 35 plus years of PTSD dealing with my father and I'm going through VVCS which is not very easy to talk about it which is too painful and I am a shame for not helping myself, also while my father having cancer treatment for Prostate and while my parents are getting divorced because my mother have had enough of nearly 50 years of mental, physical and verbal abuse and I do fully understand the real reason is why. My father refused to get help for nearly 50 years of silent since Vietnam War for not going through Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service (VVCS), this has cause so much damage within my own family which cannot be fixed because the bottle is dead full. Any way is a very very long story.

I strongly beg of you.... If you know someone who served in the military who has PTSD and there veterans families is never too late to get help from Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service (VVCS), for those who have suffer too much mental, physical and verbal abuse.
Sorry to hear about all that @SpeedyPC - the war doesn't end when the soldiers come home. Hope you and your family can manage to heal and find some peace. Sounds like you're on the right track. All the best mate.
 
I used to see no other men outside work. Then I got dobbed in to play social hockey midweek. That morphed into a full winter team last year. For the first time in my life I hang out with other blokes, play sport and we grab a BBQ and beers after when playing home games. We talk a lot of shit, but I hear a lot of subtext in the banter that many feel stressed at work, and unappreciated at home.

I got 3 kids too, but you need some time to yourself, even just an afternoon a week. There's too much social pressure on men today to be everything to everyone, all the time. Especially the pressure to be the ultimate Dad. Some of us are overcompensating for living with Dad's who were always at work, or distant. I find it's fairly common experience in men of my age.

My Son's school has a fathering project, where they put on talk by local celeb Dad's every few months and you get to talk Fatherhood with other blokes you don't really know. Everyone is trying really hard to do it well. But the project is not about that, it's about trying a little more, a little more often, instead of trying to be the best Dad ever, all the time. It's a ridiculous idea that it's even achievable. It's one of the many things that can causes mental issues.
 
The only issue I see and they don't include or ever talk about is there personnel problem is nearly 93% of men and women who has Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) serving in the military in war (for example Vietnam War), can cause a lot more damage which is far greater in there own family from mental, physical and verbal abuse and I'm one of them too since my father who has PTSD for more than 50 years this is why I'm going through Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service (VVCS).

I have 35 plus years of PTSD dealing with my father and I'm going through VVCS which is not very easy to talk about it which is too painful and I am a shame for not helping myself, also while my father having cancer treatment for Prostate and while my parents are getting divorced because my mother have had enough of nearly 50 years of mental, physical and verbal abuse and I do fully understand the real reason is why. My father refused to get help for nearly 50 years of silent since Vietnam War for not going through Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service (VVCS), this has cause so much damage within my own family which cannot be fixed because the bottle is dead full. Any way is a very very long story.

I strongly beg of you.... If you know someone who served in the military who has PTSD and there veterans families is never too late to get help from Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service (VVCS), for those who have suffer too much mental, physical and verbal abuse.

Mental health is an issue for men from all walks of life, the strong men who have fought for our way of life to our children, about a decade ago I attended the funeral of a friends son, we trained martial arts togeather, we worked in his dads shop togeather, he was 13 years old when he passed.
Guys, we need to look out for each other; It’s really important, have those hard conversations with your mates, hold them to a high standard.
Be better.
Hear hear!
I'm 48 hours into assisting a friend who's the victim of domestic violence upon many levels from a guy I consider a brother to another mother.
I've known the fella since day dot at school.
He has changed in the last few years and whilst I know I've reached out, offered support etc, I still feel guilt for not being enough of a difference in his life to help him prevent this downward spiral.
Now his father, a former supermax governor, is devastated after I informed and first hand showed him the evidence of his son's behaviour.
His son will no longer be a part of his infant child's life, he will end up with a criminal record, the relationship between him and anyone that cares about him has been decimated before hand and this will likely sever it with the rest and I fear that either he is going to jump The Gap or use drugs as an escape mechanism.
Please, if you're struggling, reach out for a hand up, there is far more shame in being too cowardly to ask, than showing the strength to admit you would appreciate a hand.

I used to see no other men outside work. Then I got dobbed in to play social hockey midweek. That morphed into a full winter team last year. For the first time in my life I hang out with other blokes, play sport and we grab a BBQ and beers after when playing home games. We talk a lot of shit, but I hear a lot of subtext in the banter that many feel stressed at work, and unappreciated at home.

I got 3 kids too, but you need some time to yourself, even just an afternoon a week. There's too much social pressure on men today to be everything to everyone, all the time. Especially the pressure to be the ultimate Dad. Some of us are overcompensating for living with Dad's who were always at work, or distant. I find it's fairly common experience in men of my age.

My Son's school has a fathering project, where they put on talk by local celeb Dad's every few months and you get to talk Fatherhood with other blokes you don't really know. Everyone is trying really hard to do it well. But the project is not about that, it's about trying a little more, a little more often, instead of trying to be the best Dad ever, all the time. It's a ridiculous idea that it's even achievable. It's one of the many things that can causes mental issues.
In a lot of ways, I feel that socially and politically corrected behaviour, with thanks to the Wowsers, resulted in the death knell of the Aussie Larrikan, had a lot to play in this.
I've had conversations with formerly active members here that cite the wowser mentality creeping into this site as the predominant reason their activity here has decreased or stopped.
It killed off a lot of outlets for us Men and left us feeling shame and selfish for putting ourselves first every now and again.
How we can find what we've recently lost, I don't know, yet hopefully open and frank discussions like this will help.


With this in mind, how do others feel about a section in the forum where we all can go when life is getting to us and simply either offload or ask for suggestions?
Perhaps "The Bar"? would be suitable?
Or would this section be suffice with perhaps an appropriate tag option?
 
Lots of very courageous and thoughtful posts - thanks guys.

Just a reminder that if anybody reads any of this thread and wants to talk to somebody while I'm anybody here would be willing to listen there are also agencies such as https://www.lifeline.org.au/ who can be contacted at any time on 13 11 14 should you need some trained support.

Take care guys
 
Here's a question for your collective wisdom. And it is the thin end of the wedge compared to much of what has been shared. Some of us are going through some tough situations.


I used to be active in my local Home Brew club, was the president actually, mostly this meant finding something beer related to talk about once a month and drink a pint or two of great beer.

With my career change last year and pressure from work, teenagers, building a house. I quit as president and have left the club.

So the question is, why did I sacrifice my social outlet for the Treasurer's agenda? It seemed like the only option at the time or was it just the easy option to not feel like I was letting anyone down?
 
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