And to those of you (you know who you are) who have used this thread to be condescending, rude or judgemental of others - shame on you! This place is supposed to be about exchanging knowledge, helping others and sharing - not a forum for taking cheap shots, starting pointless arguments or dick waving. A bit more tolerance of differences and a more giving attitude would go a long way to making this a better place to be.
'Nuff said..
If that is aimed at me, I reiterate that my comments are based upon third party experiences, or if you will, facts, and directly aimed at the product only, rather than users.emotionally driven comments taking aim at the products users.
I will repeat that it is a positive that others are able to get this to work for them, whereas others, aren't and that I've not tried it!
Yes, but with greater freedom comes greater responsibility. Responsibility to deal politely, positively and helpfully with others, particularly when they call out for help or advice.
That is true and there are many sharing their positive and not so positive experiences thus far.
I don't think anyone is judging OP for their experience with MWF, or at least hope that's not the case.
Most members here are experienced and MWF is well known for its inconsistent results, so inferences that people just have to work harder, can get personal, and some people have. Which isn't fine.
Not too sure where the work harder comment is coming from.
@borked do you have MWF and IF not pm my your full name, address and mobile # and I'll send you a brand new puck of MWF for
free of charge without postage cost or any trade offer is not required is you're for free.
PS. IF I've broken my Sabbatical P&C rule of conduct then I fully accept my fail.
Mate, in no way am I allowing you to blow your sabbatical efforts over something as trivial as this.
If you don't mind loaning me a puck, I've a puck of Amber Col Conk that you can give a spin too
This is a very interesting question
@borked - one I wanted to address in my last post, but it was too late, so here it goes:
Usually, this is a question, that can be only answered by you individually...but the problem is it generally works only well, after you put in the effort/time etc.
Once you shaved with the perfect lather from the Fat - you can as
@ben74 pointed out, state that you can happily live without it (I actually tend to agree with this statement). But before experiencing such a lather, you can only assume, but can never be sure...
How much effort is it worth to learn a new language, a new lick on your guitar, how to perfectly extract a new bean with a new coffe machine, learn a new sport, etc etc etc
And now to the rant part - what really throws me off: this is a wet shaving forum - yes?
But we have some members here, who are more than happy to give negative comments about everything wet shaving related (unless it is their super special and exact setup), yet have no issues happily discussing how to spend 100s if not 1000s of $$$ on what to wear, drink, play...but if somebody post a picture if a cool new brush...
Should be somehow the other way around on this forum one might think?]
Indeed it is very much a variable that depends upon the user.
Yet if the reason for using a product, is exclusively to chase unicorns, is that not an exercise of futility?
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Some challenges, like straights, are indeed a skill worth chasing, as it is something that transfers over to a broad range of items, seeking that from a singular item though, to me at least, is time better invested elsewhere.
The potential dividends don't appear to justify the investment in time required, when this is easily attainable elsewhere.
An important part is revision of something as your skills and techniques evolve, which is why I've returned to try prior products that didn't work or resulted in the worse reaction and experience from a product since starting this.
I'm open to my limitations and seek to address them.
Yes and you probably note that I rarely post to the SOTD post, that's one reason why
Maybe there's some subtext going on here that I'm missing, but I'm really not sure where any of the angst seems to be coming from. MWF is a notoriously difficult to lather soap for many people, but it also has the reputation for being a really great soap for those it does work for.
If it works for you, awesome! Have great shaves! If it doesn't work for you, luckily enough there is a plethora of talented artisans putting out more amazing soaps than most of us will ever get around to trying. Have great shaves!
Use what works, flip what doesn't, happy shaving
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I feel that some have taken comments from me personally when that's anything but my intention.
Perspective can easily be misconstrued with text only, I'm human and susceptible to it equally, so trying to explain my perspective, yet get the feeling that I'm only digging a deeper hole, despite respecting the other members enough to try and do so.
Ahh well, I've tried, all I can do, right?
